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		<title>By: velda</title>
		<link>http://bluesun7.com/jonathan/2009/01/29/bad-daddy-good-daddy/comment-page-1/#comment-7972</link>
		<dc:creator>velda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We get that alot with Mary too. Ethan is usually quite kind to her, but she&#039;s insecure because she compares herself to him.  Her &#039;acting out&#039; usually involves ignoring him when he&#039;s trying to talk to her / play with her.  She also wrote him a &#039;hate note&#039; recently too.  Ethan answered back with a note that simply said &quot;...&quot;   When we all sat down to talk about it, we figured out the root was jealousy... Ethan&#039;s &quot;fridge&quot; pictures apparently outnumbered hers.  Easily solved.  We also discovered she felt like her dad was comparing them, and was disappointed in her and pleased with Ethan. That one takes a bit more work, but we&#039;re trying.

re: cheesiness.  I always feel cheesy myself and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s that I&#039;m not as secure as I should be.  But it&#039;s alright, feeling goofy isn&#039;t always so bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We get that alot with Mary too. Ethan is usually quite kind to her, but she&#8217;s insecure because she compares herself to him.  Her &#8216;acting out&#8217; usually involves ignoring him when he&#8217;s trying to talk to her / play with her.  She also wrote him a &#8216;hate note&#8217; recently too.  Ethan answered back with a note that simply said &#8220;&#8230;&#8221;   When we all sat down to talk about it, we figured out the root was jealousy&#8230; Ethan&#8217;s &#8220;fridge&#8221; pictures apparently outnumbered hers.  Easily solved.  We also discovered she felt like her dad was comparing them, and was disappointed in her and pleased with Ethan. That one takes a bit more work, but we&#8217;re trying.</p>
<p>re: cheesiness.  I always feel cheesy myself and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s that I&#8217;m not as secure as I should be.  But it&#8217;s alright, feeling goofy isn&#8217;t always so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What some people call &quot;cheesy&quot; is just different than what they are used to or scary to them for some reason.  Perhaps they feel insecure.  I find that so many of the things that we do in life come from feelings of insecurity.  When we are self assured and confident we usually are a lot more positive as well as open to the thoughts and ideas of others.

Knee-jerk reactions usually mean that you are allowing yourself to be acted upon.  That is of course, our choice.  We can choose to act, or be acted upon.  When we choose to act, it usually means that we are calm enough to think clearly about the situation and the actions that we take are usually much more productive.

Using positive discipline with my children, in nothing else, certain feels a lot better inside than negative discipline.  If I leave the discipline table feeling like a bad parent, that is a good indicator that the method(s) I just employed were less effective or just plain wrong.

I agree that children need to be empowered.  I have recently noticed that with Jarom (our second), he seems to be feeling out of control.  Perhaps because he is the second and younger than our oldest.  The older child has more privileges and enjoys pestering the younger one.  The younger one can often feel helpless and resorts to tactics like spitting in order to fight back.  This is similar to an animal that has been backed into a corner.  They feel out of control and they are more apt to do anything it takes to get out of that corner.

Since I have noticed that in my second child, I have been keeping an eye out for ways that I can empower him.  To help him feel like he has some control over his little world.  To help him feel that he has options and choices so that he does not feel the helpless need to act out.

It has been my observation that acting out is a symptom.  A symptom of a problem that is not necessarily related to the situation at hand.

Here is a quote that you are probably familiar with.  &quot;I teach them correct principles, and they govern themselves.&quot;  I think this is or should be the goal of every parent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What some people call &#8220;cheesy&#8221; is just different than what they are used to or scary to them for some reason.  Perhaps they feel insecure.  I find that so many of the things that we do in life come from feelings of insecurity.  When we are self assured and confident we usually are a lot more positive as well as open to the thoughts and ideas of others.</p>
<p>Knee-jerk reactions usually mean that you are allowing yourself to be acted upon.  That is of course, our choice.  We can choose to act, or be acted upon.  When we choose to act, it usually means that we are calm enough to think clearly about the situation and the actions that we take are usually much more productive.</p>
<p>Using positive discipline with my children, in nothing else, certain feels a lot better inside than negative discipline.  If I leave the discipline table feeling like a bad parent, that is a good indicator that the method(s) I just employed were less effective or just plain wrong.</p>
<p>I agree that children need to be empowered.  I have recently noticed that with Jarom (our second), he seems to be feeling out of control.  Perhaps because he is the second and younger than our oldest.  The older child has more privileges and enjoys pestering the younger one.  The younger one can often feel helpless and resorts to tactics like spitting in order to fight back.  This is similar to an animal that has been backed into a corner.  They feel out of control and they are more apt to do anything it takes to get out of that corner.</p>
<p>Since I have noticed that in my second child, I have been keeping an eye out for ways that I can empower him.  To help him feel like he has some control over his little world.  To help him feel that he has options and choices so that he does not feel the helpless need to act out.</p>
<p>It has been my observation that acting out is a symptom.  A symptom of a problem that is not necessarily related to the situation at hand.</p>
<p>Here is a quote that you are probably familiar with.  &#8220;I teach them correct principles, and they govern themselves.&#8221;  I think this is or should be the goal of every parent.</p>
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		<title>By: velda</title>
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		<dc:creator>velda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heheh, you had me.

I&#039;m familiar with a few discipline methods and the Positive Discipline approach just seems to be the one that would most effectively encourage children to be responsible, while also helping them feel secure and loved.  

Our school pushes Love &amp; Logic, but when we had a certified trainer come teach the parents how they should be doing things, what she advocated seemed neither loving nor logical. For example, when a kid is yelling at you, she said if you&#039;ll simply answer with nonsense words, the child will be confused enough that they&#039;ll back off. But while that might get a screaming child to shut up, I&#039;d think it would alienate them as well.

Positive discipline would be something more along the lines of, &quot;Wow, I see you&#039;re upset about this. It&#039;s always harder to solve a problem when we&#039;re angry. Why don&#039;t we both take a few minutes to cool off so we can find a good solution.&quot; 

Which might sound cheesey.  But it gives you a chance to remember you&#039;re the parent, you&#039;re the one who needs to behave like an adult, and the child needs love and direction.  In my experience, an answer like that, followed by a hug and a reasonable chat, is SO much better than any of myriad of ways we attempt to control a kid, and also much better than any knee jerk reaction.

Positive Discipline is not about manipulating a child into doing the right thing.  It&#039;s about empowering them to make good choices for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heheh, you had me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar with a few discipline methods and the Positive Discipline approach just seems to be the one that would most effectively encourage children to be responsible, while also helping them feel secure and loved.  </p>
<p>Our school pushes Love &amp; Logic, but when we had a certified trainer come teach the parents how they should be doing things, what she advocated seemed neither loving nor logical. For example, when a kid is yelling at you, she said if you&#8217;ll simply answer with nonsense words, the child will be confused enough that they&#8217;ll back off. But while that might get a screaming child to shut up, I&#8217;d think it would alienate them as well.</p>
<p>Positive discipline would be something more along the lines of, &#8220;Wow, I see you&#8217;re upset about this. It&#8217;s always harder to solve a problem when we&#8217;re angry. Why don&#8217;t we both take a few minutes to cool off so we can find a good solution.&#8221; </p>
<p>Which might sound cheesey.  But it gives you a chance to remember you&#8217;re the parent, you&#8217;re the one who needs to behave like an adult, and the child needs love and direction.  In my experience, an answer like that, followed by a hug and a reasonable chat, is SO much better than any of myriad of ways we attempt to control a kid, and also much better than any knee jerk reaction.</p>
<p>Positive Discipline is not about manipulating a child into doing the right thing.  It&#8217;s about empowering them to make good choices for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, these are my own quotes.  I just wanted to emphasize them so I made them look like quotes.

What do you like about Jane&#039;s book?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, these are my own quotes.  I just wanted to emphasize them so I made them look like quotes.</p>
<p>What do you like about Jane&#8217;s book?</p>
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		<title>By: velda</title>
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		<dc:creator>velda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the book Positive Discipline by Jane Nelson... where are these quotes from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the book Positive Discipline by Jane Nelson&#8230; where are these quotes from?</p>
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